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− | == | + | == Better Design #3 == |
* Previous design is probably good into receiver but not as good for tinySA tracking generator | * Previous design is probably good into receiver but not as good for tinySA tracking generator | ||
** Want to be able to drive passive/crystal filters for testing | ** Want to be able to drive passive/crystal filters for testing | ||
− | ** Can already use [[NanoVNA]] but I'd prefer the tinySA | + | ** Can already use [[NanoVNA]] but I'd prefer the tinySA due to lower noise floor |
* Goal | * Goal | ||
− | ** | + | ** Flat response across 1-30 MHz |
− | * Transistor seems to be a better noise source than a zener | + | ** Good parts of Design #2 |
+ | ** Transistor seems to be a better noise source than a zener | ||
* Idea - replace amp stage with cascode output stage followed by emitter follower for better match to 50 ohm load | * Idea - replace amp stage with cascode output stage followed by emitter follower for better match to 50 ohm load | ||
− | * Example cascode design | + | ** Example cascode design |
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=== Cascode Videos === | === Cascode Videos === |
Revision as of 21:39, 1 October 2021
Contents
Design
- Useful as a filter test signal source
- Pass filters
- Crystal filters
- From Experimental Methods in RF Design
- Fig 7.72
- Described as "not flat"
- "Junk box" parts
- (2) 2N3904 transistors
- (2) 5V (nominal) zener diodes
- Noise figure -50 dBm @ 10 MHz
Schematic
Prototype
- Unique nodes in red
- Prototype on single sided copper clad PCB
- KiCAD zener packages have backwards silkscreen (will need to fix on OshPark PCBs)
Meaurements
- 12V, 43mA current draw
tinySA Measurements
- 1-30 MHz
- Power Off
- Power On
- 100 KHz-1 MHz
- Power Off
- Power On
- Lot more energy at ~400 KHz
- -30 dB
Rigol DS1054Z Measurements
- 50 MHz scope with mods
- UltraScope settings
- SCAL 1.00 V
- H 200nS
- FFT settings
- CF = 16 MHz
- 2 MHz start, 50 MHz stop
- RBW 416.6 KHz
- Background noise
- Generator off
- Average ~ -64 dB
- Noise Generator On
- Falls off with frequency, but better than -50 dB
- Measured performance per EMiRFD (predicted - 50 dB)
Better Design #2
- Replace Zener as noise source with 2N3904 B-E junction reverse biased
- C1 is connected Emitter of Q1 to GND to reduce power supply noise
- Higher noise than EMiRFD design
- Usable from 1-10 MHz
- -40 dBm at 1 MHz
- -80 dBm at 30 MHz
- Nearly zero power supply current
Better Design #2 - LTSPice Simulation
- Falls off in a straight line (in dBm) with frequency
tinySA Measurements
- Off
- On, 1-30 MHz
- On, 1-10 MHz
Better Design #3
- Previous design is probably good into receiver but not as good for tinySA tracking generator
- Want to be able to drive passive/crystal filters for testing
- Can already use NanoVNA but I'd prefer the tinySA due to lower noise floor
- Goal
- Flat response across 1-30 MHz
- Good parts of Design #2
- Transistor seems to be a better noise source than a zener
- Idea - replace amp stage with cascode output stage followed by emitter follower for better match to 50 ohm load
- Example cascode design
- Replace R1 with 0.1uF in parallel with 470K (from the the previous)
- Remove R2
Cascode design
Cascode Videos
Build / Enclosure (Original board design)
- Used very old, but high quality chassis mount BNC connector
- Silver connector has a nice patina
- Built onto Single Side PCB material
- Acts as ground plane
- Pads cut from PCB material and superglued down onto the Base PCB
- Hot glued down into plastic enclosure